Bonnie Hays - Palmyra, Believe it or Not
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MY
NAME IS BONNIE HAYS AND I'M THE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR FOR HISTORIC
PALMYRA. HISTORIC PALMYRA NEEDED SOMEBODY TO WORK WITH THE BOARD AND TO
WORK WITH THE VISITORS, SET UP NEW PROGRAMS, AND THAT IS WHERE I COME IN,
TO DO MORE ADVERTISING, TO SET UP NEW POLICIES, AND TO GET IN AND WORK ON
THE MUSEUMS.
WHAT SOMETHING DRAWS YOU, SOMETHING CONTINUES TO DRAW YOU
INTO THE HISTORY OF PALMYRA.
I LOVE THE HISTORY OF PALMYRA, I REALLY LOVE THE HISTORY OF PALMYRA,
PALMYRA'S HISTORY IS LIKE NO OTHER. I TELL EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS LIKE THE
WEST BEFORE THE WEST BECAME THE WEST AND THAT THIS WAS THE FRONTIER AND
THAT PALMYRA'S HISTORY, IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN ANYWHERE, IT HAPPENED HERE
FIRST. AND IT JUST IS A CREDIBLE PLACE, WE HAVE SO MUCH HISTORY AND
CONNECTION TO SO MANY FAMOUS PEOPLE, WINSTON CHURCHILL,
MR. ISAAC SINGER, ADMIRAL SAMPSON, HENRY WELLS OF WELLS-FARGO, WE JUST
HAVE A GREAT MANY SOURCES AND INTERESTING PEOPLE. INVENTORS, WRITERS,
POETS, IT'S WONDERFUL.
WHY DON'T WE TACKLE THE TOWN'S
HISTORY BY ERA AND I GUESS WE OUGHT TO START EVEN BEFORE THE CANAL WITH
A FELLOW NAMED SWIFT.
YES, GENERAL JOHN SWIFT. HE WAS OUR
FOUNDER. GENERAL JOHN SMIFT WAS A YOUNG MAN OF 15 WHEN HE JOINED THE
REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THEN AFTER THE WAR HE CAME OUT COMMISSIONED
OFFICER AND HE TRIED TO SETTLE HIS FAMILY AND SOME OTHER SETTLERS IN
PENNSYLVANIA. IT DIDN'T WORK OUT VERY WELL AND THE MENNONITE WARS OCCURRED,
THERE WAS A TERRITORIAL PROBLEM, SO SWIFT WITH A MEMBER OF THE SURVEYING
TEAM OF PHELPS-GORHAM CAME UP HERE. GENERAL SULLIVAN HAD SAID WHAT A
WONDERFUL AREA THE GENESEE VALLEY WAS, HOW RICH FOR AGRICULTURE, IT WAS
JUST A BEAUTIFUL AREA, LOTS OF WATER, LOTS OF LIVESTOCK AND FISHING AND
JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR SETTLING. AND HE CAME
UP HERE AND SETTLED IN ABOUT 1789.
IN 1789, THIS WASN'T EXACTLY AN
URBAN METROPOLIS.
NO, IT WAS NOT. IT WAS LITTLE ROADS
FULL OF STUMPS. THE WATER WAS THE GANARGUA CREEK AND ALSO RED CREEK WHICH
WAS CALLED, WE CALL IT MUD CREEK NOW. IT WAS JUST A WILDERNESS AND THEY
HAD TO SETTLE THE WILDERNESS. AND JONATHAN SWIFT WAS A MILITARY MAN WHICH
WAS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO LIVE AND SURVIVE IN THE KIND OF WINTERS THEY
HAVE HERE, OR THAT THEY USED TO HAVE UP HERE, YOU REALLY NEEDED
DISCIPLINE. AND IT WAS VERY TOUGH.
OTHER FOLKS FOLLOWED HIM BUT THE
THING THAT REALLY PUT THIS PLACE, NOTICEABLY ON THE MAP WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE CANAL?
WELL, YES AND THE CANAL WAS REALLY
BUILT FOR A REASON. THEY WERE ON THE MAP BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF
FACTORIES LIKE, SMALL FACTORIES, NOT LIKE WE HAVE TODAY BECAUSE THEY
CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT BUT THE KIND OF ASHERIES THEY HAD,
THEY HAD MALT HOUSES, GRAIN MILLS, LIVESTOCK, THEY HAD A LOT OF PRODUCE
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS NEEDED TO BE SHIPPED. THEY HAD TO GET MONEY OUT,
OR IN FROM THE SUPPLIES THEY SENT OUT AND ALSO THE THINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T
MAKE HERE, THEY HAD TO GET IN. NOW GANARGUA CREEK WAS OK, THE CLYDE RIVER
WAS OK, BUT THE SURROUNDINGS AND THE TREES AND THE ICE AND THE JAMMING AND
THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED ON THOSE ROUTES THAT THOUGHT THEY OWNED THEM AND
WANTED TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TRAVELING BECAME A REAL PROBLEM, AND THEY
NEEDED A REAL OPEN AREA TO GET THE TRANSPORT OF GOODS AND PEOPLE FROM
BUFFALO TO ALBANY. THERE'S A SONG ABOUT THAT.
THIS, DURING IT'S EARLY CANAL
DAYS, HAD 2 DISTINCT PERSONALITIES. YOU HAD FAIRLY STAID, FAIRLY
CONSERVATIVE BUSINESSMEN-FARMERS AND THEN YOU HAD THIS AREA WHICH HAD A
FAIRLY COLORFUL NICKNAME?
YES, THEY CALLED THE AREA AT CANAL
AND MARKET STREET, THEY CALLED IT BLOODY CORNERS. THE FELLOWS THAT CAME TO
WORK ON THE CANAL, THEY WORKED, THEY DRANK AND THEY FOUGHT AND THEY SEEMED
TO BE A REVOLVING SITUATION. THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE
MUCH ELSE TO DO. THEY WEREN'T WITH THEIR FAMILIES. THEY WERE JUST A BUNCH
OF MEN THAT HAD TO COME AND WORK REALLY HARD, A LOT OF THEM WERE JUST
MAKING THEIR WAY IN THIS COUNTY, PROBABLY WAS THE ONLY JOBS THAT THEY
COULD GET AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID AND THEY WEREN'T PROBABLY
THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU WANTED YOUR FAMILY RAISED AROUND AND THEN THE
RAILROAD CAME. AND IT THINK FOR WHAT THE CANAL WAS, THE RAILROAD WAS
PROBABLY EQUALLY AS BAD AS ALSO CREATED THAT SAME TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AND
SO MOST OF THE MERCHANTS MOVED UP TO MAIN STREET, UNLIKE FAIRPORT OR
PITTSFORD WHERE THEY STILL KEPT A GOOD PORTION OF THEIR COMMUNITY RIGHT
NEXT TO THE CANAL.
SO IF PALMYRA'S HAD A PERSONALITY SINCE THEN, WHAT WOULD IT BE?
PALYMRA'S ALWAYS HAD A PERSONALITY. PALYMYRA'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY
INTERESTING. I'VE ALWAYS FELT PALMYRA IS LIKE A LITTLE BIG CITY. PALMYRA
IS CERTAINLY IN THE NEWS, SOMETIMES MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS. PALMYRA HAS
BEEN A GREAT PLACE FOR INVENTORS, BIG PLACE FOR FACTORIES, WE USED TO
MANUFACTURE PRINTING PRESSES HERE. THEY PATENTED 4 PRINTING PRESSES. WE
MADE PERSONAL PRINTING EQUIPMENT, WE'VE HAD SOME OF THE FINEST
PHOTOGRAPHERS FROM OUR AREA. ONE NAMED GEORGE ELTON WHO WON 8 WORLD GOLD
MEDALS, AND THIS WAS IN THE 1870'S AND 1880'S. WE HAVE OF COURSE OUR
MILITARY BACKGROUND IS JUST VERY EXCITING WITH WILLIAM SAMPSON AND SAMPSON
DAYS, BOBBY KENNEDY VISITED HERE, ON HIS ROUTE, WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
OFFICE AND IN OUR MUSEUM WE HAVE ONE OF
MRS. ULYSSES S. GRANT'S BALL GOWNS WHICH MUCH HAVE GOTTEN HERE BECAUSE SHE
WAS HERE FOR A FUNCTION DURING THE ELECTION. WE ALSO HAVE OUR FLAGPOLE AND
WE'RE IN RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
THE THING THAT MAKES PALMYRA UNIQUE IN A RELIGIOUS SENSE IS WHAT?
WELL ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IS THAT WE ARE THE LOCATION WHERE JOSEPH
SMITH FOUND THE BOOK OF MORMON GOLDEN TABLETS WHICH WAS THEN TRANSLATED
AND TRANSCRIBED IN WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE GRANDUM BUILDING AND PRINTED
HERE. THE MORMONS ARE VERY INVOLVED HERE IN A LOT OF AREAS. THEY HAVE JUST
BUILT A TEMPLE WHICH IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE EVENT THAT OCCURRED HERE IN
APRIL AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY ONLY ABOUT 80 OF THEM, I GUESS THERE'S 40
MORE BEING BUILT, BUT THIS IS IN
THE WORLD. AND THIS IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. WE HAVE THE MORMON PAGEANT HERE
EVERY YEAR AND THAT OCCURS IN JULY. QUITE, QUITE AN EVENT ALL YEAR LONG WE
HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD TO
STOP AND TO VISIT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A MISSION. THE NEXT THING THAT
WE HAVE, AND WHY I MENTIONED THE MORMON CHURCH FIRST IS BECAUSE THAT
HAPPENED IN 1820, ABOUT 1825,
ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THE CANAL UNTIL 1830. IN 1932, RIPLEY'S BELIEVE
IT OR NOT PUT IN AN ARTICLE ABOUT OUR 4 CHURCHES, ONE OF EACH RELIGION ON
THE CORNER IN AN INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S IN RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC TWICE. SO THAT FOR A SMALL
LITTLE COMMUNITY, IT REALLY IS VERY INTERESTING.
LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT 10 MINUTES OF FREE TELEVISION TIME AND YOU
WANT TO TELL SOMEBODY THIS IS WHY YOU WANT TO COME TO PALMYRA, THESE ARE
THE THINGS YOU CAN SEE
RIGHT NOW, THIS SUMMER, THIS FALL WHATEVER. WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?
I WILL TELL THEM THAT WE HAVE 3 WORKING MUSEUMS RUN BY HISTORIC
PALMYRA, WHICH IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND HAS BEEN IN PALMYRA SINCE
1843. WE HAVE THE ALLING-COVERLET MUSEUM WHICH IS ON 122 WILLIAM STREET
AND STARTING JUNE 1ST OPEN ONE TO
FOUR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS AS WELL. THAT HAS THE
LARGEST HOMESPUN COLLECTION OF COVERLETS IN THE COUNTRY. WE ALSO HAVE A
LOT OF THE ROCHESTER WEAVER GUILD, WEAVERS AS DOCENTS. AND THEY CAN SHOW
YOU AROUND. WE HAVE A FULLY STOCKED GIFT SHOP OF PALYMRA MEMORABILIA AND
ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING THINGS
THERE. WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM WHICH IS AT 132 MARKET STREET. AND
THAT IS AN OLD HOTEL BAR WHICH IS FULL OF ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING
ARTIFACTS FROM WHALING CAPTAINS TO WINSTON CHURCHILL TO WILLIAM SAMPSON
AND JOHN M JONES WHO WAS THE INVENTOR OF THE FIRST PRINTING, PERSONAL
PRINTING MACHINE. WHICH IS SIMILAR
TO THE TYPEWRITER. WE JUST HAVE THE PHELPS STORE WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE
RIGHT NOW. AND THIS IS THE WILLIAM S. PHELPS GROCERY STORE, IT'S A GENERAL
STORE. IT WAS CLOSED IN 1976, THE FAMILY HAD PASSED AWAY, THE LAST LIVING
RELATIVE HAD PASSED AWAY AND IT WAS SOLD TO HISTORIC PALMYRA. THE STORE
ITSELF WAS CLOSED IN 1940 AND THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SHELVES WERE
THERE IN 1940 AND PROBABLY BEFORE, THE PHELPS FAMILY OWNED THE STORE FOR
WELL OVER 104 YEARS. WILLIAM PHELPS BOUGHT IT IN 1867 AND ABOVE THE STORE,
OUTSIDE OF JUST THIS WONDERFUL PLACE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, IS A 2 STORY, 5
BEDROOM HOME WHERE THE PHELPS LIVED. AND SYBILL LIVED THERE UNTIL 1976
WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY. AND IT'S
JUST AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO COME AND VISIT YOU WOULD REALLY NEVER SEE
ANYTHING LIKE THIS ANYWHERE.
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